Guess who's back?
Derrick Newman on Fri, 2012-01-13 05:58
Earlier on Thursday January 12, 2012
Matt:“Did you hear what Cammy said about the Habs last night? Maybe we could get him back at the deadline. We would be able to afford him with all of the salaries coming off the books next year. Worth a call from Feaster at least, because we have a tough time getting good UFA's to come to Calgary unless we overpay.”
Newman:“Well it’s a good point. I would love to have him back. Imagine him, Tangs and Iggy? Or even as the no. 2 winger. He was awesome here and definitely the one guy that got away in the last 10 years that I wish we never had let get away. I just wonder what we would need to trade for him. Most likely they would want a budding d prospect (total guess)...like a Brodie..who I’m not willing to let go. But maybe like a Bourque going the other way with a pick or something? I'm not sure. But it would be an ideal buy low candidate.”
This was my conversation with my friend Matt at around noon on Thursday, no word of lie.
Apparently Jay Feaster was thinking the same thing.
I am ecstatic. Elated. Bowled over. Flabbergasted. Shocked.
It’s a trade that I clearly saw coming...(read above)...but never actually thought would happen...HOLY F!
Also Read: George Prax's take on the trade.
Mike Cammalleri was the one player that I always knew got away from the Flames.He worked in Calgary. That was plainly clear, and he was loved in his short time here.
In 81 games with the Flames in 2008-09, Cammy scored 39 goals added 43 assists for 82 points. It was his best season, points wise in the NHL. He also led the Flames in goals that year...besides Iggy, no one else can hold that distinction very often for the Flames.
The trade itself, seeing Rene Bourque, Patrick Holland, and a second rounder go the other way for Cammy, goaltender Karri Ramo, and a fifth rounder is what it all breaks down to.
Bourque is a lazy hockey player and to tell you the truth, if the Flames are getting Cammy to replace him, I am totally fine with it. Bourque is more hot and cold than Katy Perry.
Cammalleri always clicked with Iginla and I always chastised Sutter for not signing him, and trading for Jokinen, in 2009. It pissed me off. And now that Feaster has rectified the problem, I feel ok.
Iggy, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Jokinen, Stempniak, Glencross...
That makes me pretty happy.
Now, the move leaves the Flames with ZERO cap space to work with, which leads me to believe that another move is on its way.
A move that will involve Cory Sarich and his $3.6 million cap hit. He is ideally suite to be dealt to a contender in need of an experienced, trustworthy rearguard. There is no one other player perfectly selected to be sent packing. And who knows, he might get another Cup out of it.
As for the Flames, they, being Jay Feaster, made a good move today. I love this trade. Like love love this trade.
Cammy was always great here and loves playing with Jarome. As I’ve stated before, Bourque is lazy and more on and off than a light switch. Losing Holland could be the sticking point in the long run, but this is Jay Feaster stating that the Flames WILL NOT be like the Oilers and I like that.
The Flames will not finish last umpteen times in a row. They will be competitive with the rest of the league during their down years. Yes, they might not win the cup, but god damn will they be in the mix and make or break the hearts of fans every single season.
It’s damn emotional, but I’m along for the ride and I LOVE the move that Feaster just made.
It gets me REALLY excited about the Flames, which is something I haven’t been in a very long time...
Newman
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10 Comments
George Prax 1 year ago.
"Bourque is more hot and cold than Katy Perry."
You're fired.
But really, from a Calgary perspective, this trade is great. From a Habs perspective, it's enraging, but you already know that. Cammy is clearly the better player of the two regardless of what's happened recently, but you should probably note that he's been receding for four seasons now since he scored 39 over there. Maybe that's a Montreal factor, that remains to be seen. I always thought he was capable of 40+ goals but now? Not so sure. Should be interesting to see how he reacts playing with Iginla again. Clearly he wasn't happy here. A lot of people seem to like Bourque here already and I do like his size and that he seems to play with an edge, but the Flames got the better player in the deal, it's as simple as that.
Derrick Newman 1 year ago.
Yeah Prax, sorry bout that. I was a little inebriated...
But after a night to sleep on it, I'm still just as happy. And yes I am aware of Cammy's lack of production, but I also think he will be rejuvenated with the move. I dont like the idea of losing a solid prospect in Holland but if we get a guy of Cammy's potential, a proven scorer, I dont really care.
Also, this should shut up all those people who believe that Iginla will be traded. He is going no where soon with Mike back and Tanguay signed for the forseeable future.
As you said Prax, the Flames got the better player...which is a nice change from getting ass raped so many time in the past.
Feaster. Good job sir.
George Prax 1 year ago.
I mentioned in my own thread that it's interesting to see the Flames give up assets for a player they used to have for like the 5th time in the last couple of years lol. This move was definitely meant to insulate Iginla though, you have a definite point there. But I'm not sure that's a good thing.
Dreise23 1 year ago.
Thanks for the great read Newman.
I also agree with this article I think that it shows that Feaster has his idea of what the team can do and know that trying to rebuild via Edmontons method just doesnt work as well. I am from Edmonton and am sick of listening to the whining of the Oiler fans about how they cant win and they have to many injuries and that would suddenly make them better, I am a Flames fan for life and we have a GM that is willing to go out and get it done.
Great work Feaster lets get into those playoffs and then anything can happen.
Flogger 1 year ago.
It is awesome to see Cami back and may even put them into 7th or 8th this year. Getting rid of Borque is also a big plus. I am just unsure of where this team will be in 2 years time. I think the path that this sets is one of tinker, not fix. Yes Cami is a favorite player, i like him too and time will tell how his addition can and will improve this team. But does it make them good enough to beat the elite teams? I don't think so. He was here a couple years ago, did the Flames get past the first round? The team has changed since then, but not by much.
I would have like to see a pick and prospect back. I think this move is more about PR, than about making a push to the cup.
Derrick Newman 1 year ago.
I agree that this team still isnt good enough to compete against the elite but at least it shows Feaster is doing everything in his power to ice a competitive team, instead of cleaning house and starting from scratch, which I believe rarely works as planned (see Islanders, Oilers, etc). We got the best player in the deal. We were gonna get a prospect back as well.
And as for a PR move, I guess it kind of is in a way. It's just telling fans that yes the Flames will stay competitve and not tank for draft picks like our neighbours to the north.
Flogger 1 year ago.
I need to clarify, I don't think Feaster made this move as a PR move, but it is a great PR move more so than a hockey move. I also think the team can try to stay competitive without blowing it up. To me this trade feels real safe and comfy, not much of a risk, fan fav coming to Calgary, Bourque moving out, win win. My struggle with any deal is Cap space and future assets. This move does not help. Flames can be successful without blowing it up, but it requires a balance between trades, drafts and FA.
Also, It will be interesting to see how Cami does under Sutter as coach instead of Keenan who allowed for a bit more creativity. Montreal plays a fast attack high risk style of hockey that is better suited to Cami's style of play. Not sure why he did not work out. Perhaps because he was asked to cross into the defensive zone occasionally under Martin and the new dude?
The risk is, if Cami does not return to 60+ points, how good will he look with his contract.
At his price, he better avg a point a game or this trade sucks.
George Prax 1 year ago.
" Montreal plays a fast attack high risk style of hockey that is better suited to Cami's style of play. "
Where did you get that idea? lol. Maybe a little more now under Cunneyworth, but definitely not under Martin, who played a defensive shell. As a matter of fact, Cammy was said to be one of the driving forces within the locker room to get Martin fired.
Cammy's a great shooter and scorer, the problem is he tends to want to do too much with the puck. He quickly became a leader on the Habs because he was easily the best forward when he came in. That gave him a lot of leeway and it forced the team to rely on him. It also forced them to let him do what he wanted, and that was to try playmaking a little more. It worked out for a while, but now, the Habs have people who have scored more consistently than him, and I think that bruised his ago, along with not getting the captaincy and eventually losing some ice time.
So I'm not sure if he'll be able to get over himself in Calgary, considering that as things stand now, in terms of production, Cammy's still about 4th or 5th down the totem poll among the forwards. But at the same time he's not going in there as a leader, so I think that will help if he can find a way to focus on only his own play and not all the extra-curriculars.
Derrick Newman 1 year ago.
I wouldnt worry too much about the cap issue as they have roughly $20 mill coming off the books on July 1. And like I said, expect another trade, or series of trades, to free up room. Think Sarich and in a dream world Stajan.
As for Cammy producing, I think the hope is that you get a player who was under performing and clearly unhappy to come to town and re-energize his career. The stress to play well is pretty high in calgary but it doesnt even come close to that in MTL. Im excited to see what he can do. If he doesnt perform, I dont think they necesarily lose the deal as Bourque was very inconsistent and f'ing lazy.
It's a bold move by Feaster and like I said I like it and it gets me excited about the team.
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